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Post by Jaden Yuki on Jul 28, 2009 16:38:21 GMT -5
Yea Judai, we know you like doing all the stuff by yourself, for yourself and keeping it personal. Problem is we're not asking for personal subplots. We're asking for ones that will involve everyone, mainly the students.Jun's idea is good, but I also like Derrick's whole non-magical threat idea. Maybe a way to combine them would work, like someone who owns a major corporation dies, allowing a powerful (non-magical) underling to take over who starts an attempt to buy all the Duel Academies for some nefarious (non-magical) goal. I noticed a lot of people seem put off by the fact that most enemies are magic and the thinking that you need powers of your own to fight them. I personally want to get rid of that stigma and allow regular students to get involved with the plot as much as anyone else. Whoa there! I didn't say all that. Don't put words in my mouth. It really makes me look bad, ya' know? A plot can't advance by one person RPing by themself. Of course it's going to involve others, but basically what I was trying to know here if there was any interest so we can expand it to make a more broad catch, including the students. Besides...when did I ever do a plot here that involved solely myself? That's ridiculous and you know it. ...and as for you preferring the non-magical emphasis, that sounds cool and all, but you have to be more logical in what you're saying. There was never a disadvantage where people would need magical powers to fight others who have them. Quite frankly, it's just their own imagination. Hmm...I think i have a picture of what everyone is preferring here. May I suggest some kind of Kaiba Corp/Industrial Illusions Event people? |
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Post by Orlando T. Willowcrest on Jul 28, 2009 20:10:50 GMT -5
I personally greatly like Jun's idea, but definitely see the point of Ashley's perspective. The other ideas are good too, and much appreciated. Don't stop with the suggestions, keep em' coming!
@ Jaden's third paragraph: He DOES have a point...
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Post by Jaden Yuki on Jul 28, 2009 22:58:10 GMT -5
Hmm...it sounds like we're leaning back to a possible DM Tournament or something for a suggestion and chaos ensues. Cliche, but effective nonetheless. You guys could work that in somewhere if you all want a tournament and are cool with it. From my perspective, they are quite effective.
A tournament being a sub scenario, but I guess I should pull out the dictionary of terms: Sub Scenario being the character's main concern while the plot and problem behind it arises, sort of like that Duel Monsters tournament last plot becoming a war, so we should shoot for something new.
....!?! Judai has an idea!
An exam sub-scenario? The students preparing this month for an exam week, but something must be behind it, and for some reason. Someone (Like Ashley) can make some sort of Duel Academy Exam for preperations, and those who are scored will move onto some sort of scenario, like some sort of honorary spot in a field trip only to learn that a corporate scheme is in progress when they reach their destination or something.
...Wow. Thought of all that straight out of my head in seconds. Umm...this is still vague, so it's really not clear since I just thought it up on the spot, but so far so good. Anywayz, it sounds like a lot of work, but it'll be fun seeing all DA students run around like chickens with their heads cut off about some BIG exam about to go down on campus. It's realistic and it'll be quite fun down the line while introducing what we'd have in mind.
@jun: I really did not read your plot idea yet since I''ve been sleepy all day and pretty much skimmed this thread, but I will try to read it tommorow and work it into my fingers to see how I can work it to make it more...expressional should I say? I can't quite get an image out of it from when I skimmed.
EDIT: HEEEERE'S JUDAI!
Okay, I read it, and I pretty much like it, but I'm kind of fuzzy on the Ancient Dimension thingy. I can't get a clear read on what you mean and how it would lead to a fight for humanity, but it does sound good...except...the fight for humanity thing coming right away isn't something I'd look forward too. It sounds like the Duel Spirits plot. If you make the fight for humanity too sudden and obvious, then it kind of drags out waiting for a hero. Might want to think small, and then when that smallness is confirmed (Like a force that is set on ruining the island first) then towards the ending, the climax, a plan is revealed to destroy humanity. This usually means a battle comes down within the last week for posting.
That's just my theory however gathered from experience. It's good though.
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Post by Kaze Saffire on Jul 28, 2009 23:13:40 GMT -5
I'm all for the no magic thing. I'm tired of being put to the side whenever I try to enter something ( I even discarded an idea I was just thinking of where humans become spirits and vice versa ) No more duel tournaments either, as I was immediately put out of that one too. I would actually like to have fun with more than just person like I did when I first joined this site. Sad to say I don't have any ideas right now. But if I come up with any, I'll drop em.
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Post by Jun Itsuki on Jul 28, 2009 23:46:36 GMT -5
Like I said before, it was just a brief idea. I think you're being just a wee bit critical on me Judai. Seriously, I'm only a 16 year old for pete sake. -.- I spat all of that out off the top of my head.
Everything can be edited, molded and formed to make it exceptionally good to everyone standards. And 'fight for humanity' was the first thing that poped out of my head, and honestly, I didn't mean to make it sound like it comes straight away. In every plot for any good story there has to be a build to that point, a gap of time for everyone to get it through there heads, to put the pieces of the puzzle together.
I really love this whole idea of corporate goons trying to do something too, so I'm really split, and I wish there were some way we could combine the two together.
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Post by whitequeen on Jul 29, 2009 0:48:47 GMT -5
Yea Judai, you may have missed it but the whole 'tournament into chaos' happened in the LAST plot to terrible effect. We're not doing that again. And stop being so damn nitpicky.
So far it seems most agree on the non-magical setting, so trying to combine elements of Jun's idea with that would be pretty effective I think but we'll see what else comes up.
If anyone has ideas to add, feel free to share. We haven't finalized anything yet so don't keep anything to yourself.
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Post by Amanda Leeding on Jul 29, 2009 1:36:35 GMT -5
I've always personally preferred more normal, down to earth plots that can be summarized in just a sentence or two. I tend to be more against something like a "Supreme King" plotline, because it needs pages and pages of references and such to even begin to make sense, and if you're not here from the very beginning, just about none of it will make sense.
That's just my $0.02. As awesome as some believe huge, sweeping arcs to be, if the members aren't up to it then there might be little reason for it.
Edit: Hmm, there seems to be a whole entire second page I've missed before I typed, and the none magical setting seems to have taken precedents. My error.
Hmm, as for a plot idea, I honestly don't think I could come up with a decent one off the top of my head, though the exam idea sounded halfway decent, considering this IS an academy.
I'd prefer to keep everyone involved though, not just a "these people passed, they get to be protagonists" kind of thing. <_<
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Post by Orlando T. Willowcrest on Jul 29, 2009 4:24:36 GMT -5
Yea Judai, you may have missed it but the whole 'tournament into chaos' happened in the LAST plot to terrible effect. We're not doing that again. And stop being so damn nitpicky.
So far it seems most agree on the non-magical setting, so trying to combine elements of Jun's idea with that would be pretty effective I think but we'll see what else comes up. If anyone has ideas to add, feel free to share. We haven't finalized anything yet so don't keep anything to yourself. Be nice, please. Ideas are ideas. >.> |
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Post by Jaden Yuki on Jul 29, 2009 6:47:30 GMT -5
Like I said before, it was just a brief idea. I think you're being just a wee bit critical on me Judai. Seriously, I'm only a 16 year old for pete sake. -.- I spat all of that out off the top of my head. Everything can be edited, molded and formed to make it exceptionally good to everyone standards. And 'fight for humanity' was the first thing that poped out of my head, and honestly, I didn't mean to make it sound like it comes straight away. In every plot for any good story there has to be a build to that point, a gap of time for everyone to get it through there heads, to put the pieces of the puzzle together. I really love this whole idea of corporate goons trying to do something too, so I'm really split, and I wish there were some way we could combine the two together. Yaya, I was actually crediting you. If you don't know by now...I'm pretty much me, so the stuff I say will sound...umm...cruel or something? But it's not with my intention. What I was saying was that your idea is good, and it'd be appreciated if it was solidified since everyone seems to have some sort of high expectation. @lando: No, it's fine. I can explain things, and without negativity, so don't worry about the trolling. Quite frankly Ashley, I was saying how the tournament thing was cliche and done so many times. It's a reason why I'm against it which is why I suggested something more "student based" like some sort of exam month that leads to the forum's request for a non-magical plot base or whatever. There are other methods in mind, but I have little time and they're not solid. Perhaps maybe after work they'll come to mind...hmm... |
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Post by Jean Dove on Jul 29, 2009 7:02:07 GMT -5
I tend to be more against something like a "Supreme King" plotline, because it needs pages and pages of references and such to even begin to make sense, and if you're not here from the very beginning, just about none of it will make sense. I honestly PREFER stories like that as long as they aren't too long and too complicated. I agree with the exam idea also, but I can't think of anything of my own... I'll let you know if I think of anything though... |
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Post by Justin Plannoth on Jul 29, 2009 10:23:49 GMT -5
I'd prefer to keep everyone involved though, not just a "these people passed, they get to be protagonists" kind of thing. <_< I agree 100% on that. It is hard being a new member and reading the plot, just to find out that you can barely participate. -_-; Hmm... so the plot has to be broad enough that anyone can join but straightforward enough that the plot will actually move in a designated direction. Ill post something later that can go with Jun's plot. (Speaking of which, correct me if I'm wrong, but the duel monsters were brought to life because of the millennium items. If we were to go with that plot would it contain the millennium items, or are we completely shooting down "magical artifacts"?) |
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Post by Jun Itsuki on Jul 29, 2009 10:54:58 GMT -5
@judai: I'll remember that next time, and I"m sorry if I took your statement the wrong way. THings can come off in many different tones when they're in text, is all. ^^ I'd prefer to keep everyone involved though, not just a "these people passed, they get to be protagonists" kind of thing. <_< Agreed. I'm not very good at this whole online, type out what you're doing dueling that's done on here. It confussles me. @.@ (Speaking of which, correct me if I'm wrong, but the duel monsters were brought to life because of the millennium items. If we were to go with that plot would it contain the millennium items, or are we completely shooting down "magical artifacts"?) Actually, and this is straight from Anime Network: They used many forms of socery to play these Games of Darkness. The sorcerers' skills would be tested by seeing how powerful of monsters they can summon, and how powerful a spell they can cast to power up those monsters. So, no, it doesn't involve the millennium items. Besides, during GX I'm pretty sure they're nessled away in Eqypt in the mysterious tomb. |
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Post by Shinichi Minamino on Jul 29, 2009 11:32:45 GMT -5
If possible, I would prefer a non-magic plot too. I also like the idea of a tournament (something like Battle City would be fun), but apparently that had bad results previously on this site. But... maybe as a sort of filler while the new plot is being created/finalized? Something like Kaiba is recreating a sort of Battle City and the winning student gets a special prize.
As for the idea of a big corporation or something trying to take over Duel Academy, it's interesting, but I don't get the logistics of it. For one thing, Kaiba owns Duel Academy and I doubt he would allow it to be taken over in a manner such as that. For another, I don't know what the students could really do about something like that. "Hey, I want to duel you so you don't take over our school!" "... No, we'll just take it over, thanks." QQ
As for my own ideas... haven't got any (besides the filler tourney thing) yet. >>
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Post by Zariel Kentra on Jul 29, 2009 12:05:39 GMT -5
If tournaments (i'm assuming knockout) get bad results, why not try a league type thing instead where you would get points for winning, but can't be removed by losing constantly, you just stay at 0 points.
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Post by Justin Plannoth on Jul 29, 2009 12:24:30 GMT -5
As for the idea of a big corporation or something trying to take over Duel Academy, it's interesting, but I don't get the logistics of it. For one thing, Kaiba owns Duel Academy and I doubt he would allow it to be taken over in a manner such as that. For another, I don't know what the students could really do about something like that. "Hey, I want to duel you so you don't take over our school!" "... No, we'll just take it over, thanks." QQ Lol, yeah I see your point there. There isn't really anything the students could do about that, other that do a petition, and even then it would help much.... Yea Judai, you may have missed it but the whole 'tournament into chaos' happened in the LAST plot to terrible effect. I thought the tournament was successful since alot of members participated. The "into chaos" part....not so much. As another random thought, there could be like a duel competition between all three dorms as a mini plot. People would sign up to be in the tournament. then would duel people in your dorm in order to choose a representative of that dorm. The the representatives would duel to see which dorm is the best....or something like that. The problem with that is that there is probably a lop-sided number of students from each dorm. And the fact that there is an uneven number of dorms... |
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